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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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planetary_worship 2/15/2019 6:08 PM
Huh, that's pretty cool
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Tests on people doing this sort of thing have shown that there is no real communication, so I do not believe it is possible myself. But if you want to try it that might be how you want to try it.
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Dream expert 2/16/2019 3:06 AM
forgot you were here elephant
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Deleted User 2/16/2019 3:07 AM
i’m recruiting people who love to chase and share knowledge in a place and i’m doing crystal studies if anyone wanna participate in helping me in them
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Shared wonderland is a real thing
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It's roleplay in mechanism
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But if you ramp up emotional investment (edited)
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It gets really good
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planetary_worship 2/16/2019 4:35 AM
That's extremely intriguing
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I've talked to several systems that do it
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I've done it myself too, but only with a gf, so it was kinda invested (edited)
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That was when i was a singlet, years ago
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It's risky stuff because you can easily get emotionally attached
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So it's best to have a lot of trust in the other system
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planetary_worship 2/16/2019 4:38 AM
That reminds me of a comic I read, where there were heart shaped stones couples would buy and they could share their dreams if they put the stone under the pillow...t'was very interesting (of course, it was a horror comic so it ended poorly, but still a cool subject. I know dream sharing IS possible if you try hard enough, but yeah it was cool)
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I've heard of that, but it sounds [i]meta[/i]
4:39 AM
Since this is a meta channel
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I've dreamed the face of people before i met them
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Twice
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People i knew online
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They visited me in my dream, then when i got the visual, perfect match (edited)
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Nuclear Werewoof 2/20/2019 3:15 PM
I've been reading a little about third eyes and pineal glands and stuff like that I'm curious, how would something like that affect a tulpa?
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Nuclear Werewoof 2/20/2019 6:47 PM
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Jay+Pinkie (Omega system) 2/20/2019 7:12 PM
Not many avid metaphysicists here. Tulpa.info is more science-oriented in general.
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Deleted User 2/20/2019 7:13 PM
sorry wolf but wrong place i’m in a place that might be meta
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maybe i don’t know if it comes close
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Nuclear Werewoof 2/20/2019 7:17 PM
wai- wait wait, what? I don't really understand abyss
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Jay+Pinkie (Omega system) 2/20/2019 7:24 PM
I failed to parse their response too, tbh.
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They believe in metaphysics... Kinda
7:25 PM
That's roughly what I read abyss as saying
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Deleted User 2/20/2019 7:27 PM
i’m in a server that might be meta but i’m not sure, you simple ones
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Pinging @Alice maybe he can tell you more about this stuff.
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I would imagine improved third eye work would help seeing tulpas easier, due to visualizations and stuff.
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why pineal glands should affect tulpas more than any other part of the brain; @Nuclear Werewoof ?
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Nuclear Werewoof 2/22/2019 2:46 PM
just curious if it will I read stuff about decalsifying it, activating it etc. it's not really a problem, I'm just curious about this
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most of the things I googled up don't sound like meta; more like straight on pseudoscience stuffs shrugs
3:08 PM
"The pineal gland’s photoreceptor is actually activated by light reflected from the retina" like what's that supposed to mean?
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the gland's pretty deep within the skull; right?
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no matter how you reflect the light it just won't get inside your head
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lots of the things mentioned; like having more sun exposure; make sense – in this case it's good for getting your vitamin D up; which is known to reduce the "foul mood"
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Jester of Doom 2/22/2019 4:19 PM
The thing about the pineal gland responding to light is legit neuroscience.
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There are photoreceptors in your eyes that send signals into the brain to your pineal gland, which releases melotonin when you are in the dark in order to promote sleep.
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All of the stuff about "decalsifying" your pineal gland or "activating" it is just straight up nonsense though.
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Without intending it to be an attack, that sort of stuff is what metaphysics tends to be all about.
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Jester of Doom 2/22/2019 4:43 PM
I mean, I am not a meta guy, I am a science guy who came in here purely to correct people who were trying to call the actual anatomic function of the pineal gland nonsense.
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"Jester of Doom the science guy" does not have the best ring to it
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Jester of Doom 2/22/2019 4:45 PM
I mean, my legal name comes off a lot better. I have a German surname, so when I get my doctorate I'm finally going to sound like a mad scientist. 👌
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Nice.
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Jester of Doom 2/22/2019 4:46 PM
And I do feel the need to admit that I have dabbled in things that some would classify as meta, but I attribute what I've accomplished to entirely non-metaphysical things.
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Like, meditation is falling squarely into psychology and neuroscience now.
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“pineal glans reacting to your eyes perceiving light” makes sense
6:43 PM
the devil's in the wording
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Actually light can just "go through" your brain, it's radiation afterall. It can penetrate tissues to some degree and its absorbtion depends on a lot of factors. However light only reflects when it finds smooth, mirror like surfaces, which is little likely to happen with your brain though
7:32 PM
Although there are smooth tissues, it doesn't qualify exactly as a reflective environment (edited)
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And the pineal gland does react to light, but in ways diff from what most "meta" related internet info provide
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It secrets melatonin when there's a low level of light, such as at night
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Melatonin is a hormone implied in your sleep regulation
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And don't even get me started on theirs "pineal gland and dmt thing"
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Not yet a scientifically proven fact, so let it rest, people
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Even if it did produce dmt, there are plenty of substances that act upon the same receptors, and being more "useful" to the body and their amounts being way greater than that of dmt, if it were produced
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It's little likely it could have any effect
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But yeah, the pineal gland "activating" and enhancing certain skills like visualisation may still be real. Afterall, there are special located centers along the brain for pretty much anything. They may as well be located at that level. Who knows.
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so science is kidnapping mediation now?
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Science will embrace anything which is discovered to be able to be tested and proven as working
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Jester of Doom 2/23/2019 2:58 AM
^^^^^
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That's how science works.
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Science will assimilate all in time, its an asymptotic thing.
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V∆L-H∆L8 2/24/2019 4:08 AM
@Nuclear Werewoof The Third Eye? That little chakra, you'd have bettter visulzation skills, be able to see into the astral and see your tulpa clearly.
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There's more but I stopped caring about the chakras when I failed to open my third eye.\
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Deleted User 2/24/2019 4:29 AM
is it even safe to attempt to open
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like really safe?
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Nuclear Werewoof 2/24/2019 12:27 PM
I'm not sure, I only stumbled across an article and read a little bout it, so I don't know all that much
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❤Carnelian❤ 2/24/2019 5:40 PM
Yes it's safe, how could it not be?
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Deleted User 2/24/2019 5:41 PM
many people saying it’s literally not?
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I think it makes more sense to assess the "why" rather than "some people said so so they must be right"
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Deleted User 2/24/2019 5:44 PM
well i’m trying to be careful as well
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I haven't personally heard anything bad about it. Do some searches on it. I learned about the idea in a guide we read once. I think it was The Psychonaut Field Manual
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❤Carnelian❤ 2/24/2019 5:46 PM
The worst that could happen is that if you have really unbalanced lower chakra and open your third eye you may experience mild confusion and headaches
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Chakras*
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V∆L-H∆L8 2/24/2019 8:19 PM
haha, If you really want to see into the other dimensions,thendo it.
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Iprefer to hear, it'sonly betterbecuaseI don't haveto lookat these fatherfuckers and go batsin the belfry asa result.
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❤Carnelian❤ 2/24/2019 9:42 PM
Have you heard of the space bar?
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What'sthat? Soundsfreeky
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❤Carnelian❤ 2/25/2019 2:41 AM
is this what hell is like?
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Deleted User 2/25/2019 2:54 AM
abyss receives mild confusion, it’s effective
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The easiest way to mess up your chakra balance is working with only one of them at a time. It's what most people do, actually, as working with all of them at once requires more effort. I'd advise the second method, though, if you do seek the benefits of a so called "active 3rd eye". Afterall, "a healthy mind in a healthy body". What use will it be to you an overly active upper one if the cost is draining out the lower ones?
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Deleted User 2/26/2019 1:14 AM
hello fellow people, i’m here as i’m at a roadblock in my current studies about crystals featuring the chakras as a possible thing, the road block is a complicated thing as it would be required to know what causing the roadblock, only question, do you want to know the first part?
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Yes, if it is understandable for rational people
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Deleted User 2/27/2019 4:26 AM
anyone else wish to hear to?
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How do you know you're crystals are high enough quality or the right type? Forgive me i know nothing. (edited)
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planetary_worship 3/2/2019 4:35 AM
@Bear It really depends on the person and what works for you. Quality isn't important in the long run, it's energy that's the most important. Good quality, yes, is nice, but honestly it differs. For some people quality means how well it works for them, and for some it's how the crystal was treated/physical quality. There's also no "right type", as I've said many times in this paragraph, it differs between people. If you can tell it works, then awesome! Sometimes it takes a little longer to tell and that's ok! And it's okay to ask questions so don't worry about it, that just ensures you'll be most efficient ^-^
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Does it matter if I have a foggy quartz crystal? Should I search for one that's more clear? I can't say I know much about that sort of thing.
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Deleted User 3/4/2019 3:26 AM
man i forgot about this awhile ago
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[eros]paroxys verisimilitude ☄ 3/4/2019 7:18 PM
Hey y'all
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I have a problem with grounding, and my energy is all over the place. I was considering making a tup that I can rely on to help bring me down.. any thoughts?
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Also: any thoughts on mixing tups with magic. I'm not a user myself, but I'm really curious if someone has incorporated their tup in rituals and things
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Jay+Pinkie (Omega system) 3/4/2019 8:05 PM
Making a tulpa for a purpose is generally a bad idea. At the very least consider what would happen to them when they fullfill their "purpose", or decide that they don't care about it. If the answer is different from "live happily together ever after", I'd suggest you stop right there.
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Also consider the possibility that they might come to think of all that magic or whatever as bullshit.
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